"Funktheduck" (funktheduck)
08/17/2016 at 17:48 • Filed to: None
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"Funktheduck" (funktheduck)
08/17/2016 at 17:48 • Filed to: None | 1
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It’s that time again for rear brakes on my car. After the dealership failed me again I’ve decided to just do them myself.
The first set and this set have lasted around 43k miles. Stopping is fine. I’m looking for something that’s better that lasts as long or something that stops as well but lasts longer.
These are rear pads for my 2015 Mazda 3. Still running original pads on the front.
My bird IS the word
> Funktheduck
08/17/2016 at 17:53 |
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I don’t have a longevity report, but ebc redstuff is some good stuff
Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire
> Funktheduck
08/17/2016 at 17:54 |
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Hawk
Baskingshark
> Funktheduck
08/17/2016 at 17:54 |
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If you are doing it yourself, which I have done a few times with my cars, why not just buy what ever decent pads your favorite auto parts store carries? Are you planning on autox, or "spirited" driving the car?
yamahog
> My bird IS the word
08/17/2016 at 17:55 |
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EBC bluestuff are great on my Camaro. Dusty and noisy, as a track pad should be.
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Funktheduck
> Baskingshark
08/17/2016 at 17:58 |
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It's mostly just driving for work but I have a bit of fun driving from time to time. I've always gone with the local parts store stuff for previous cars but I was just reaching out to see what other people like/use.
Needmoargarage
> Funktheduck
08/17/2016 at 18:02 |
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I prefer Hawk HPS for street/light track use...but honestly for rear brakes on a street driven car, I wouldn’t bother spending more money than the ‘premium’ pads at your local store.
I think the only real difference you’ll notice with more aggressive rear pads on the street is more brake dust and noise. Additionally, there is a trade-off between durability and grip, so anything more aggressive will wear faster.
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Funktheduck
> Needmoargarage
08/17/2016 at 18:10 |
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Yeah I've always had pretty good use out of the autozone pads in the past for previous vehicles. I was curious to see what other people like. For whatever reason, my generation 3 uses the rear brakes before the front. I've never had a car like that. At nearly 88k miles I'm still on the original front pads.
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Funktheduck
> Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire
08/17/2016 at 18:11 |
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After looking up 3 different websites the only Hawk pads for my car I found are “race use only”
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Baskingshark
> Funktheduck
08/17/2016 at 18:32 |
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I have always used the local auto parts store pads, I do some fun driving in my slow econobox. If I were running it a little harder or had a higher performance care I would look into Hawk's or something similar.
BorkBorkBjork
> Funktheduck
08/17/2016 at 18:38 |
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I have had terrible luck with Hawk, the pads they recommended to me lasted about 40 days with heavy dusting. They only worked when hot, and would not stop the vehicle at all when cold.
The Baer pads that I have used worked pretty well, but still had ridiculous dusting. Lasted longer than the Hawk but still not better than the OEM.
Currently I’m using Adaptive One ceramic pads from NAPA Auto Parts, and they work great. They have already lasted 70,000 miles and have minimal dusting and excellent stopping power.
Junkrat aka Rick Sanchez: Fury Road Edition
> Funktheduck
08/17/2016 at 20:31 |
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My 2012 Focus is the same way. It would wear out the rear tires faster too. I never rotate my tires, I normally do a 12k mile oil change every two months, I would be doing it all the time. It’s not a huge difference, compared to most FWD cars that wear out fronts while the rears are only about halfway, it’s kind of surprising. My Focus is a hatchback/wagon with almost 175k miles if you care. Still drives as good as it ever has and will chew up highway with the best of them.
I used Wagner thermo-quiet, or whatever they are called, and got almost 65k out of them. I actually kind of wish I would have gotten rear drums for my commuter, I probably would have only replaced one set at about 125k.
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Needmoargarage
> Funktheduck
08/18/2016 at 09:09 |
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Maybe the front pads are a harder compound?
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Funktheduck
> Needmoargarage
08/18/2016 at 10:15 |
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No idea. I asked them with the first set and the reply I got was “I dunno, all the ones for that body style do that.” Talking to another guy he says he thinks the rears clamp first and take most of the load.
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Needmoargarage
> Funktheduck
08/18/2016 at 10:52 |
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That’s bizarre...sounds like some shoddy engineering. If the rears are over-biased from the factory that can lead to a pretty unsafe threshold braking behavior. Fronts really should be wearing much faster due to weight transfer and bias...never seen anything like that!
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Funktheduck
> Needmoargarage
08/18/2016 at 12:06 |
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I’ve done some googling recently and in the past and it seems to be a fairly common question among Mazda 3 owners.
There are a few common theories:
Rears engage first to help prevent nosedive
Softer compound on tears vs front
Sticking components from insufficient lube from manufacturer
And my theory that originally had that I’ve seen a few other guesses on: hill assist. Mines a manual with hill assist. My guess is it stays clamped for a set time regardless of motion. With how many hills and stops I do on a day to day basis I could see premature wear from that. I think if it were a softer compound too that would really add to it.
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Needmoargarage
> Funktheduck
08/18/2016 at 12:18 |
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Interesting...out of those theories I would strongly agree with the compound difference. Rears engaging first is a big design no-no and nosedive wouldn’t really change regardless...they would need stiff front spring rates to combat that. I think with sticky components you would feel the drag and see mpg decrease.
My guess is that hill assist wouldn’t increase wear significantly. Usually it engages when the car is completely stopped requiring only static friction. Wear under these conditions is probably negligible. Alternate theory is that you enjoy handbrake turns :)
I love a good automotive mystery haha
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Funktheduck
> Needmoargarage
08/18/2016 at 12:23 |
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I’m gonna go to autozone today and pick up some duralast gold (I think that’s the one I usually go for). I’ll be able to report in about 40k miles if they’re any better/same/worse than OEM. I may be able to tell by brake dust though. My rears produce a ton more than fronts.
I looked up ebc since they were suggested but they didn’t seem to come in for rears.
jimz
> Funktheduck
09/10/2016 at 05:01 |
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Talking to another guy he says he thinks the rears clamp first and take most of the load.
the physics of weight transfer make that impossible. if the rears were doing most of the braking, you’d be locking them up all of the time. Sounds moar liek Mazda just undersized the pads.
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Funktheduck
> jimz
09/10/2016 at 13:56 |
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Maybe. The duralast gold (I think that's what they are) that I put on feel nicer and seem to dust less.